tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post145371642428699328..comments2024-03-15T00:14:51.739-07:00Comments on Classical Gallifrey: Serial 115: LogopolisGungaDinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07571959874070196405noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-53083773351074499722017-01-25T07:51:26.228-08:002017-01-25T07:51:26.228-08:00I've been watching Doctor Who now for about 40...I've been watching Doctor Who now for about 40 years, saw most of the classic series live on TV (3rd Doctor and beyond), and just recently came across this line by Baker's Doctor in Logopolis Episode 3, around the 21:14 mark, which I don't think has been talked about enough:<br /><br />DOCTOR: We passed through one of your voids, Monitor.<br /><br />THIS line that is barely said out loud by the Doctor explains the whole flippin' E-SPACE Trilogy and how The Doctor and Romana got lost in the first place (Full Circle, State of Decay and Warrors' Gate), which is then explained in Logopolis, 5 stories later while all that companion nonsense was going on in the background. <br /><br />I've said it time and time again, some of the writing on this show was ahead of it's time in regards to a main story arcs lasting through a season. Didn't like the execution of this dialogue, but the idea...<br /><br />...brilliant. <br /><br />And yes, the story was not a great sendoff for Tom Baker....poorly executed ideas, with the ludicrous panto Master evil plan ruining it. Baker deserved better. But hey, we said the same about Colin too right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-20103156949637539912012-03-22T00:59:36.008-07:002012-03-22T00:59:36.008-07:00LOL at the notion of the mindnumbingly boring Trak...LOL at the notion of the mindnumbingly boring Traken being better than most of the Williams era. Tee hee. If you say so, dear, personally I like to be entertained rather than bored senseless, but that's Who fans for you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-44751476490048262442011-03-26T07:47:18.674-07:002011-03-26T07:47:18.674-07:00The story in Logopolis is a hot mess, but there ar...The story in Logopolis is a hot mess, but there are certain things I love about it. I love how the Doctor is dealing with his death the whole time. I love the idea of the Watcher, because it would be creepy as hell having this spirit just silently follow you around, but they could have done so much more with it. I think the series suffered a lot from half baked ideas during this time.<br />And @MyGeekLife, I completely agree about End of Time: It was like RTD threw every last idea and character he could think of into a blender and out came that serial. Utterly confusing but totally entertaining at the same time.Auranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-52575374948861222062011-03-25T13:46:54.505-07:002011-03-25T13:46:54.505-07:00Oh man, I totally forgot to mention War Games! It&...Oh man, I totally forgot to mention War Games! It's one of my favorite Second Doctor stories, and I love the Second Doctor. <br /><br />@Fundy, I thought End of Time, though not without its flaws, some of them rather jarring, had a lot going for it. It was everything right, and wrong, about RTD, so as an endcap to Tennant and RTD's overall incredible run, I rate it quite highly.<br /><br />And Planet of the Spiders had some wonderful elements, though I wouldn't consider it one of the best regeneration stories. I just prefer it over Logopolis.MyGeekLifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-12391193521045322522011-03-25T10:24:30.762-07:002011-03-25T10:24:30.762-07:00@Fundy - Canon is completely made up and fake. As ...@Fundy - Canon is completely made up and fake. As such, I have no problem considering "The War Games" a regeneration story while still subscribing to 6B. Besides, as a final end-all, "The War Games" is pretty much across the board phenomenal and a glorious send-off for any Doctor, but it works best for Troughton.<br /><br />So uhhhhhh... yeah. I choose to have my cake and eat it too.GungaDinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571959874070196405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-55366800684482238152011-03-25T10:17:14.553-07:002011-03-25T10:17:14.553-07:00GungaDin, if you buy the Season 6B theory, then Th...GungaDin, if you buy the Season 6B theory, then The War Games does not count as a regeneration story.Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-88558392264927920632011-03-25T10:15:57.137-07:002011-03-25T10:15:57.137-07:00MyGeekLife, do you think that The End of Time and ...MyGeekLife, do you think that The End of Time and Planet of Spiders are good stories?Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-37290602613388110542011-03-25T09:40:56.930-07:002011-03-25T09:40:56.930-07:00Or even The War Games, I'd argue. Always going...Or even The War Games, I'd argue. Always going to be in my top five.GungaDinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571959874070196405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-43422846739092075172011-03-25T09:39:00.083-07:002011-03-25T09:39:00.083-07:00I definitely agree with your take on Logopolis. A ...I definitely agree with your take on Logopolis. A good story, and I hate to say it but I was glad to see Tom Baker go, and not just because Five is my absolute favorite classic Doctor. However, the stuff with the Watcher and a lot of the action on Logopolis itself felt strangely pointless. It just can't hold a candle to Caves of Androzoni, The End of Time, or even Planet of the Spiders as far as regeneration stories go.MyGeekLifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7789262377783653415.post-56598528668441339932011-03-25T07:45:14.030-07:002011-03-25T07:45:14.030-07:00There are a lot of problmes with this story, but i...There are a lot of problmes with this story, but it really is stylish!Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.com